u even have a bible club!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :?: :!: :?: :!: :?: :idea:

Yes we have a bible club but unfortunetly right now it is run by a custodian and a student!

thats insane!!!!
we cant even have any christmas or other holiday decorations!!!!

well you shouldn't because you have to respect the diverse religons thats y I was suggesting the differnet religon clubs!

You are constitutionally given the right to have religious clubs(you will learn this is 9th grade government), as long as they are not affiliated with the school, just using school space. FOr example, we have a fellowship of Christian athletes club at my school. However, if you think it is important to learn about other religions, take the comparative religions class in high school.

You are allowed to have a christmas/ holiday tree. THe supreme court ruled that the tree and corresponing decorations were part of a secular holiday that is reocognized by the state.

Yeah I know but my teacher said that they couldn't indivisually reflect their religon on the students! If a teacher was Jewish and wanted to contribute his Jewish faith(within reason of course) he should be able to!

[quote="ostrichlady"]Yeah I know but my teacher said that they couldn't indivisually reflect their religon on the students! If a teacher was Jewish and wanted to contribute his Jewish faith(within reason of course) he should be able to![/quote]

Then let them eat cake!

religion should not be brought up in school unless it is in an educational context. A jewish teacher should nto be preaching their religion to a math class.no religion has a place in the classroom,unless the education is of the religion.

that's not what I was saying! The teacher definetly shouldn't be able to talk about it in class! But I am saying the teachers should be able to make a club expressing their religon! Like my bible club is led by a custodian and students! the teachers arten't allowed to!

If you want to practive/preach/teach religion exclusivly to ONE faith (which is what you're doing) then you can arrange that outside of a government building just fine. If you wish to learn about religion or philosophy in a general and scholarly manner, then it is entirly appropriate.

But school is a place to learn! And I think that it would be wonderful if I could actually experience the other religons! It will be ONLY an educational program! Like there will be no worship service! It will be just going through the religons basics! And possibly deeper into the religion!

they have a class called Comparative Religions in highschool. It teaches students about Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Shinto, Confucianism and Daoism, and Buddhism.
That should be enough, you don't need a club in school based solely on one religion.

and in some cases the class teaches even more than that. In fact we were able to review paganism and Norse for some time.

I just think that if we had a club based on one religon we would be able to study them more than that class!

have you taken that class? The class has a purpose. You would probably learn more math in a math class than a math club. The religion class teaches you religion without bias, it is more helpful than a relgious club would be (believe me, Im taking the class.)

[quote="saget1"]have you taken that class? The class has a purpose. You would probably learn more math in a math class than a math club. The religion class teaches you religion without bias, it is more helpful than a relgious club would be (believe me, Im taking the class.)[/quote]
I agree, I took that class, and it goes pretty indepth. And you get to look at religion from a more scholarly point of view, which allows people to see why a religion developed in a region when it did, why certain beliefs were incorporated into religions, common features in all religions, as well as the unique aspeacts of each. It encompasses many topics with great detail.

THe class is a good idea if you want ot learn more about religons.

I have to admit I have mot taken the class since I am only in 8th grade. But I just thought that if there was a club for a specific religon it would be able to go deeper into the subject

well, go ahead and have a single religion based club, but meet outside the school area. Perhaps at a members house, or even a library.
Clubs dedicated solely to one religion have no place in a public education building in my opinion.

It wouldn't be allowed. I mean they won't even allow intelligetn design in schools. A single religon club would be seen as favored and then sponsored by the school and state and would never hold up.

Meade seems to be the excpetion to every rule...We have Vertical Reality, a Bible club that meets once a week and it's run by a teacher and a group of students. It's just like any other club, it brings together students for a common purpose who join specifically to talk about one religion. it's not manditory that every student do so, but the option is there for anyone interested. There is nothing wrong with having a club with such a focus as long as it's not forced on you.
Also, we have Comparative Religions, but students have complained that the teacher's bias (in our case, not in every case), gets in the way. She'll spend a day or two on Islam, Hindu, Judaism, African, Asian and Amerindian religions, and Protestantism, then spend the majority of the semester discussing Catholicism because that's all that really interests her.

In a way, what gerard is saying is exactly what I wanted. It isn't manditory!!! So people who want it can have it! Or maybe a Comparitive religon club. i know a lot of my friends would be interested in a club that can express it. And I am going to be an IB student. and unless it is maditory I might not be able to get a compartive religon class!

:arrow: To answer the original post....

I would have to agree that a teacher be allowed to teach an After School religion of their choice. I believe it was mentioned that a teacher is not allowed to teach a religion DURING SCHOOL HOURS unless it's part of the coriculim.

so i guess the original question should've been....

:?: would you agree that a Teacher should beable to teach/host a religion after school hours as an Extra Curicular Activity :?:

If the issue went to court it would be upheld depending on where you are. if you are in Dover,PA they would not stad for it. But school often let churches use their property for services now that I think about it, so it really depends on where you are.

:? :?

And the parents would have no right to sue the school for being biased to one religon, because the students can conduct a club about their religon if they wanted as long as they have teacher supervision

They shouldn't but they do.

[quote="ostrichlady"]And the parents would have no right to sue the school for being biased to one religon, because the students can conduct a club about their religon if they wanted as long as they have teacher supervision[/quote]

What if a Muslim child wanted to start a club exclusive to his religion but no teacher sponsor the idea because of his/her beleifs? They can be denied the right to have a club then just because they're a minority in the area?

Now that is an interesting senerio. The school is not required to hold something if there is not a great enough demand, but I sure the students would be able to get an adult to sponser them.

How are you so sure? Sponsering a club is a big deal and not all teachers can do it. What i don't understand is the need for this club. There are sunday schools. If you really want in depth focus into one religion go there, or wait until college. However, I do believe in free speech, and if a club is open to all people i see no reason why it shouldn't exist, even in a school setting.

A teacher wouldn't have to sponser it.